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舊 06-19-15, 12:16 PM   #4126
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玩360 game暫時要xbox preview program參加者先可以.

遲D先開放俾所有人, 無講幾時.
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舊 06-19-15, 02:22 PM   #4127
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玩360 game暫時要xbox preview program參加者先可以.

遲D先開放俾所有人, 無講幾時.
之前有講係聖誕
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舊 06-19-15, 02:42 PM   #4128
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好似唔洗ga

不過我真係prview prog 的參加者

各位先add我及message 我,我幫手add 同invite

xboxtag: richardwtk
師兄, 已ADD及MESSAGE你, 麻煩晒!
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舊 06-19-15, 02:55 PM   #4129
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總算解開咗多年的"謎團"…
XBOX ONE手制上果粒制,原來係叫VIEW & MENU BUTTON,如果我無聽錯…

但鐘意老外叫MENU BUTTON做漢堡包制多D…!!!

Stage Demo: Xbox Elite Controller - E3 2015

Danny gets an up close look at the new Xbox Elite Controller from our E3 2015 Stage Show.


https://youtu.be/WlB7o5D60UE




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舊 06-19-15, 04:29 PM   #4130
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Microsoft on the New Xbox Controller, Backwards Compatibility, and Focusing on Games

https://youtu.be/y1_Ovtp8_Ok




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舊 06-19-15, 04:56 PM   #4131
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mass effect 完美執行中

approved list 應可玩了,大家只要update完就可模擬x360

數位版遊戲下載完可直接玩,碟版要入碟,下載完每次开機入碟就可玩

上面個list除borderland因有機remaster外,就算是halo我覺得最终都会對應
有冇得 multiplay ? x1連360 / x1連x1 ?
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舊 06-19-15, 06:09 PM   #4132
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有冇得 multiplay ? x1連360 / x1連x1 ?
360 <-> X1 & X1 <-> X1
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舊 06-19-15, 08:14 PM   #4133
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咁佢無好似PlayStation Now咁變做收費服務都算係咁啦。
剛好PS NOW係一個月有100+隻舊GAME可以玩…但XBOX呢個係免費都有少少吸引力的。

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ex...subscriptions/

原來 Xbox One 的向下相容是靠模擬器達成的
http://chinese.engadget.com/2015/06/...-how-it-works/

Xbox 360 在過去十年間攻佔了無數人的客廳,粉絲們也買了各種遊戲大作,然而 2013 年 Xbox One 推出後,並不支援對 Xbox 360 的向上相容性,讓許多失望的粉絲們只能看著滿櫃子的遊戲興嘆。這也是為什麼微軟今年 E3 上的宣佈這麼振奮人心 -- 微軟表示將在 Xbox One 上提供 Xbox 360 的相容能力,預計聖誕假期前推出這個功能,初期將支援約一百款遊戲。

據微軟遊戲出版事業總經理 Shannon Loftis 在 E3 上的解說,要做到這個並不容易,花了大把的工程師腦汁,才研究出如何在 Xbox One 裡做一個 Xbox 360 的模擬器。當你把光碟片放進去的時候,Xbox One 就會自動載入模擬器,產生一個 Xbox 360 的 dashboard,然後你就從這個小 dashboard 進入遊戲。在玩 Xbox 360 遊戲時,依然可以使用 Xbox One 的諸多功能,像是串流、DVR、截圖等。除了光碟版之外,數位版也可以相容,同時也可以使用以前的舊存檔呢。

遊戲的相容需要微軟寫程式之外,也需要開發者同意授權確認相容版與原本開發時的目標一致。所以要玩家告訴微軟想要將什麼遊戲帶到 Xbox One 上,微軟會盡量想辦法的囉。

Here's how Xbox One backward compatibility works

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/18/x...-how-it-works/

The Xbox 360 had a dedicated spot in millions of living rooms, bedrooms and offices for nearly 10 years, and during that time, players purchased massive libraries of games. However, when the Xbox One launched in 2013, it didn't include the ability to play or transfer Xbox 360 games, a disappointment for many fans. That's why Microsoft's announcement at its E3 showcase was so exciting: The Xbox One is getting backward compatibility this holiday, with a lineup of more than 100 fan-requested Xbox 360 games to start and more to be added as demand warrants. Xbox One backward compatibility runs an Xbox 360 emulator right on the console, which is no easy feat, Microsoft General Manager of Games Publishing Shannon Loftis explains during a chat at E3.

Are you pleased with the response to the announcement of backward compatibility on Xbox One?

It's something that I, as a gamer, have been wanting. Actually, the genesis of backwards compatibility is that gamers asked for it. It took some time for us to figure out how to do it, but we did and the response has been amazingly positive.

How does it work, technologically?

It wasn't easy. It took some pretty dedicated engineering effort and very talented engineers. What they did was they created a software-based 360 emulation within the Xbox One architecture. So, when you put your disc in the drive, we're actually loading up an emulator, and then we put up a little portion of the Xbox 360 dashboard and you use that dashboard to launch into your game. You still have access though to all the great Xbox One features: game streaming, game DVR, screenshots. It works for digital games as well and your saved games do transfer. Gamers have put so much into 360 games, so much passion, energy, time, money, and that value I think is important for us to bring into the Xbox One story.

Will every Xbox 360 game eventually be available via backward compatibility?

It's up to gamers to tell us what they want. We do all the work, but there is a little bit of work and part of that involves talking with the publisher and making sure that this is consistent with their goals for the game as well. So, as gamers ask us, we will deliver.

Check here for everything happening at E3 2015!





http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/b...-compatibility


Xbox One Backward Compatibility is easy to use
The Xbox One Backward Compatibility Beta is available starting June 15 for Xbox preview members. The program will launch broadly in fall 2015.

The digital titles that you own and are part of the Back Compat game catalog will automatically show up in the “Ready to Install” section on your Xbox One. For disc-based games that are a part of the Back Compat game catalog, simply insert the disc and the console will begin downloading the game to your hard drive. After the game has finished downloading, you will still need to keep the game disc in the drive to play.
http://compass.xbox.com/assets/8e/2c...ne-18-2015.pdf

Available games

Initial preview titles with more to come. Games are subject to change.

A Kingdom for Keflings

A World of Keflings

Alien Hominid HD

Banjo-Kazooie

Banjo-Tooie

BattleBlock Theater

Defense Grid

Geometry Wars Evolved

Hexic HD

Jetpac Refuelled

Kameo

Mass Effect

N+

Perfect Dark

Perfect Dark Zero

Super Meat Boy

Toy Soldiers

Toy Soldiers: Cold War

Viva Piñata

Viva Piñata: TIP

Zuma


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舊 06-19-15, 08:51 PM   #4134
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Windows Central heads to the Xbox media showcase party at E3 2015

http://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-m...owcase-e3-2015

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舊 06-19-15, 11:56 PM   #4135
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有冇得 multiplay ? x1連360 / x1連x1 ?

should be ok to play with 360 user. basically, the x1 becomes x360 emu, even the dashboard returns to 360 one after pressing menu and view button together

the emu is so good that you seems playing 360 directly.

but i dont think it will beat p4 completely as the publisher will not grant bc licence to those remaster games. the scope may be slightly more than the microsoft owned games.

hope bc cover more games la

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舊 06-20-15, 01:18 PM   #4136
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聽到xboxone 可以玩返360(我有兩部360)
有興趣入手
以前360多fps game,我老豆岩玩
但xb1有咩game好玩呢?
Gear of war ,Halo幾時有新game?

(同埋已有ps4)
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舊 06-20-15, 02:44 PM   #4137
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聽到xboxone 可以玩返360(我有兩部360)
有興趣入手
以前360多fps game,我老豆岩玩
但xb1有咩game好玩呢?
Gear of war ,Halo幾時有新game?

(同埋已有ps4)
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關於兼容360 game
http://www.vg247.com/2015/06/15/xbox...box-360-games/
- 暫時只有參與左 "Xbox preview計劃" 既會員先可以享用呢個功能. 一般玩家要等到年尾.
- 唔係所有game即刻玩得番. 要等M$放上server你先可以download番黎玩.
- 初推出時會有100隻game. 之後慢慢加.
- 版權問題, 要遊戲公司approve先會加.
- 你有隻game既360版就可以玩, 唔駛俾錢再買. 如果你手上係碟版, 咁就入碟落XBONE, 就可以download.
- online mode係同番360玩家連線.
- 可以用到XBONE既cap圖, 錄video, stream畫面去PC等功能.

XBONE 現時有Halo 1-4合集 (可以俾錢買DLC咁樣買埋Halo ODST)
Halo 5 今年年尾.

GOW1 Remaster 黎緊8月尾出.
GOW4 下年年尾.

其他XBONE game:
Dead Rising 3
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Motorsport 5, Forza Horizon 2
Ori and the Blind Forest
Titanfall
Zoo Tycoon
Killer Instinct
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舊 06-20-15, 03:28 PM   #4138
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Xbox Daily: LIVE @ E3 Day 1
We’ll debut the never-before-seen Halo 5: Guardians’ Warzone multiplayer mode and behind-the-scenes video. Plus a world-premiere behind-the-scenes look at Gears of War: Ultimate Edition, the reveal of a brand-new Fable Legends hero, Phil Spencer will stop by, and much more.

https://youtu.be/aDZ5BRykXGw



Xbox Daily: LIVE @ E3 Day 2

We’ll dig into fans’ biggest questions about Halo 5: Guardians’ Warzone. Plus a closer look at Rise of the Tomb Raider, the new Xbox Elite Wireless Controller for hardcore gaming, Turn 10 will cover the best of Forza Motorsport 6, and tons of games will be reviewed.

https://youtu.be/VhWY_Rqa-FY



Xbox Daily: LIVE @ E3 Day 3

We’ll take a closer look at the Halo 5: Guardians campaign story, exclusive footage of the Gigantic creatures, and the next chapter in the fan-favorite Killer Instinct franchise. Plus a walk around the Xbox booth, Kudo Tsunoda will stop by, and more trailers and interviews

https://youtu.be/Kk9Sk0fSdMQ






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舊 06-20-15, 03:54 PM   #4139
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Testing out Xbox One backwards compatibility

Microsoft gave many Xbox fans exactly what they wanted at E3 with support to play Xbox 360 games on the Xbox One.

It's available now to preview program members so we take a quick look at it in action.

https://youtu.be/WU3cqYo8yzk



The VIP Microsoft ExpertZone party from E3 2015

We give you a video tour of the private after-hours E3 party at the Microsoft booth! The party was to give thanks to Microsoft's retail experts as part of their ExpertZone program.

https://youtu.be/ZxFmnVoft9A





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舊 06-20-15, 04:00 PM   #4140
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留意



XBONE 現時有Halo 1-4合集 (可以俾錢買DLC咁樣買埋Halo ODST)
Halo 5 今年年尾.

GOW1 Remaster 黎緊8月尾出.
GOW4 下年年尾.

其他XBONE game:
Dead Rising 3
Sunset Overdrive
Forza Motorsport 5, Forza Horizon 2
Ori and the Blind Forest
Titanfall
Zoo Tycoon
Killer Instinct
Forza Motorsport 5 skip左佢會比較好,5和6應該分別不大,只是換左車同場地。
Forza Horizon 2建議玩,玩到FM6出剛好
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舊 06-22-15, 03:20 PM   #4141
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Q1:各位覺得今年TGS MS重會參展嗎??(面對著對家的3款勁作)
Q2:如重參展,各位覺得起碼要Show D咩作品先有份量呢??


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舊 06-22-15, 04:09 PM   #4142
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Q1:各位覺得今年TGS MS重會參展嗎??(面對著對家的3款勁作)
Q2:如重參展,各位覺得起碼要Show D咩作品先有份量呢??
難得有日本獨佔game Scalebound, M$都打算擺去8月德國Gamescom講新消息
http://news.xbox.com/2015/06/xbox-lo...-e3-and-beyond

我諗M$無預左去TGS.
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舊 06-22-15, 04:22 PM   #4143
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難得有日本獨佔game Scalebound, M$都打算擺去8月德國Gamescom講新消息
http://news.xbox.com/2015/06/xbox-lo...-e3-and-beyond

我諗M$無預左去TGS.
應該已經放棄連同日本的亞洲市場

好似除左MS之外就唔會有中文GAME推出


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舊 06-22-15, 04:27 PM   #4144
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我想問m$係咪冇官方online store可以買x1+送貨?
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舊 06-22-15, 04:32 PM   #4145
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我想問m$係咪冇官方online store可以買x1+送貨?
this one?
http://www.microsoftstore.com.hk/
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舊 06-22-15, 04:42 PM   #4146
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唔該曬, 我去左xbox.com睇, 佢個"buy"果頁係叫我落街搵零售

呢頁果到買係咪同出面買一樣價錢? 又有冇話落街買好d, 我家陣慣左網上購物有d懶..
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舊 06-22-15, 10:42 PM   #4147
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睇嚟應該唔會有機會係XBOX ONE玩得返XBOX 360堆KINECT GAME,
都好少個理由買XBOX ONE的NEW KINECT。

模擬多碟版GAME的問題,我諗應該會好似用PSP/PS3玩返PS 1多碟版GAME咁處理。



http://www.gamespot.com/articles/rev.../1100-6428366/

Revealed: How Xbox One Can Play 360 Games via Backward Compatibility
Phil Spencer explains how Microsoft is making classic games playable; Confirms Kinect games won't work.

Phil Spencer, the head of Xbox, has explained how Xbox 360 game emulation is being achieved on the Xbox One, as well as the ethos behind the company's decision to support legacy content.

Speaking on Giant Bomb's E3 Day One podcast, Spencer said the decision to support Xbox 360 games was made to "make 360 owners look at Xbox One as a safe place to play."

"Millions of people made investments in 360 content," he said. "We thought the right thing to do was to make that content go forward, but we didn't know [how difficult it would be]."

"[Emulation] is hard," admitted Spencer, explaining that the company was dealing with having to harmonise PowerPC architecture with x86.

"The approach that we've taken is to actually emulate the full Xbox 360 hardware layer. So the [operating system] for the 360 is actually running when you run the game," Spencer explained.

"If you watch the game's boot you'll see the Xbox 360 boot animation come up. From a performance standpoint it allows [emulation] to work. We're able to get frame by frame performance equivalents."

"[Xbox Live] thinks you're on a 360, so people have been asking 'hey, why are you playing Mass Effect on the 360?,' I was actually playing on the Xbox One."

Spencer continued to explain that, since the Xbox One thinks it's playing a normal game, features such as streaming and screenshots are supported.

"The 360 games think they're running on the 360 OS, which they are. And the 360 OS thinks its running on the hardware, which it's not, it's running on an emulated VM. On the other side, the Xbox One thinks it's a game. That's why things like streaming, game DVR, and screenshots all work, because it thinks there's just one big game called 360."

Delving deeper, Spencer explained exactly how the emulator packages the Xbox 360 games, and how it compares to Xbox 360's emulation of original Xbox games.

"You download a kind of manifest of wrapper for the 360 game, so we can say 'hey, this is actually Banjo, or this is Mass Effect. The emulator runs exactly the same for all the games.

"I was around when we did the original Xbox [backwards compatibility] for Xbox 360 where we had a shim for every game and it just didn't scale very well. This is actually the same emulator running for all of the games. Different games do different things, as we're rolling them out we'll say 'oh maybe we have to tweak the emulator.' But in the end, the emulator is emulating the 360, so it's for everybody."

Asked about whether Microsoft would require permission from game publishers to adjust game code, Spencer clarified it would not be interfering with code.

"The bits are not touched," he said. "There's some caveats, and as always I like to be as transparent as I can be on this: Kinect games won't work from the 360, because translating between the Kinect sensors is almost impossible."

Finally, the subject of multi-disc games was also addressed. According to Spencer, it's an issue engineers are looking into.

"We're still working on multi-disc," he said. "Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon are some of my favourites from the 360. There's actually work in packing a multi-disc into single that requires us to go back and look at the original package on the multiple discs and reconfigure that."

Microsoft announced Xbox One backwards compatibility with Xbox 360 games at its E3 press conference. According to the platform holder digital Xbox 360 titles already purchased via XBLA, as well as retail discs of last-gen titles, will eventually be "natively" playable on Xbox One.


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Xbox One在日本一星期只賣出100部?
一早覺得唔好係日本發行XBOX ONE好過,
搞不好售出果100部都係香港水貨佬引入香港、中國的數量嚟…

Xbox One Reaches a New Low in Japan

http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-reaches-a...pan-1713004688

Just when you think Microsoft could do no worse in Japan, the console proves that, yes, it can do even worse. Much worse.

After a dismal Japan launch and then horrible sales, the latest weekly Xbox One sales for Japan are, simply put, awful. During the week of June 8 to June 14, Microsoft sold a hundred Xbox One consoles in Japan. That’s right, one hundred.

Here’s how the sales hardware sales chart shapes up for that week:



This data is from Media Create, which tracks game software and hardware sales in Japan.

Yes, yes, I know that any of the home consoles aren’t exactly tearing up the sales charts, but compare the Xbox One numbers to the other consoles. Then, think about selling a hundred Xbox Ones in a week in a country of over 120 million people? Ouch.

You know, now might be a good time to seriously reconsider even selling the console in Japan.



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Only 100 Xbox One consoles were sold in Japan between June 8-14
http://www.windowscentral.com/only-1...ween-june-8-14

Microsoft promoted the Xbox One heavily during E3 2015 last week, but the console continues to be a sales disaster in the game-crazy country of Japan. During the week of June 8-14, only 100 Xbox One consoles were sold in Japan, a new low for any version of the console.

By contrast, Nintendo's Wi U, which is a sales disaster in every other part of the world, sold 16,413 units in Japan that week and Sony's PlayStation 4 sold 10,822 units. Even the Vita TV, the cheap set-top box that's known as the PlayStation TV in the US, sold 566 units in Japan last week, over five times what the Xbox One sold.

This is sadly a case of history repeating itself. The previous two Xbox console did not sell well in Japan, despite heavy promotion in that country from Microsoft. In 2014, the company launched the Xbox One in Japan but only sold 23,562 units in that country in its first four days. By contrast, the Xbox 360 sold 62,135 units in just its first two days in 2005 and the original Xbox sold 123,000 units in three days in 2002.



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舊 06-23-15, 06:38 AM   #4149
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E3有無提過Xbox one 會否支援360 acarde game?
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舊 06-23-15, 10:14 AM   #4150
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E3有無提過Xbox one 會否支援360 acarde game?
會, 而家已經支援Toy Soldiers, Defense Grid.
俾你投票果道亦有XBLA game可選.

暫時似乎係睇幾樣野:
- 遊戲公司批唔批准
- 係咪多過一隻碟 (M$話未支援到, 攪緊)
- 係咪kinect game (M$話做唔到, 唔會攪)
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