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舊 04-16-19, 10:20 PM   #1
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Official PlayStation Next-Gen plans

https://www.resetera.com/threads/off...d-more.111777/







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[2020, Ray Tracing, BC, SSD, & more]

- Mark Cerny is once again the Lead System Architect.
- 8 core AMD 7nm Zen 2 based on third generation Ryzen.
- Ray-tracing support with custom AMD Navi GPU.
- Custom AMD unit for 3D Audio, also aided by ray-tracing, a big upgrade.
- Extremely fast high-end custom SSD storage faster than any solution currently available for PC:
- Spider-Man load times on PS4 Pro: 15 seconds → 0.8 seconds on next-gen PlayStation.
- Technically supports 8K but Cerny demoed Spider-Man load speed improvements on a 4K screen.
- New Virtual Reality platform strongly hinted at but also supports current PSVR (meaning millions of VR users 'day one').
- Death Stranding might be a cross-gen title (speculation in article based on Cerny reply).
- Physical Media.
- Backwards Compatible with at least PS4.
- 4 years in development so far.
- Target for 2020 release.


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舊 04-16-19, 10:34 PM   #3
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最新傳聞RAM係會用 HBM2, 總共24GB


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舊 04-16-19, 10:35 PM   #4
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leak at pastebin.com, posted on December 3, 2018
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I'm a third party small developer from EU,for the last 8 months i've been helping a well known company in a AAA game development that is set to release in 2020 as a lunch game for PS5.

Some infos that i'd like to share that are 99% correct(i say 99% because small incremental hardware change can occur till 2020,although specs are set in stone).

-PS5 official info from Sony somewhere around next E3(Sony will not be participating on E3),i'd say Q2 2019 small reveal
-PS5 release March 2020 or November 2020,not yet finalized
-backward compatible
-physical games & ps store
-ps plus & ps plus premium ( premium-beta early access,create private servers,
-specs CPU 7nm ryzen 8 core 16 threads,unknown speed
  GPU 7nm Navi arhitecture around 14TF,its gonna be powerful and power efficient,Sony working with Amd for Navi,some sort of Ray Tracing but will not focus on that,more focus with VR and 4k,much better bandwith overall
  24GB Gddr6 + 4gb ddr4 for os,we have 32 gb dev kits
-2tb hdd some sort of nand flash
-8k upscaling
-PSVR2 in 2020 also,reveal with ps5,big resolution boost probably 2560x1440,120hz,220 field of view,eye tracking,wireless,battery life 4-5 hours,headphones integrated,less motion sickenss,no breaker box,much less cable management,much more focus on VR for aaa games,price around 250$
-dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR,more analog precision for fps games,something similiar to steam analog trackpad
-price 499$,100$ loss per console at a beginning

Ps4 exclusive launch games that i know of

Gran Turismo 7 (vr)
Pubg remaster 4k f2p with ps+ only on ps5
Last of us 2 remaster
Ghost of Tsushima remaster
2-3 aaa games more + psvr2 games

No exclusive 3rd party ps5 games 2020

Battlefield bad company 3
Harry potter
Gta 6 Holiday 2020 most probably,not hearing anything ps4 related (hearing that Sony is paying huge money to secure 1 month time exclusive for ps5). Been hearing rumors about Miami and New York,so 2 big cities,but im not sure if thats 100% true
Assassins creed
Horizon 2 so far in 2021


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舊 04-16-19, 11:09 PM   #5
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Sony Teases Next-Gen PlayStation: Custom AMD Chip with Zen 2 CPU & Navi GPU, SSD Too

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14224...e=notification


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舊 04-16-19, 11:22 PM   #6
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Private server即係隻隻game都可以online link機?


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舊 04-18-19, 05:09 PM   #7
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PS:向下兼容PS4 Game好事!
PS2:對應8K睇下就算啦!


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舊 04-18-19, 05:20 PM   #8
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睇佢到時有乜獨佔game玩先入手~!

不過向下兼容PS4同PS VR game的確安心咗。


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舊 04-18-19, 10:22 PM   #9
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兼容埋ps2 啦唔該
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舊 04-19-19, 02:14 PM   #10
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兼容埋ps2 啦唔該
其實ps2已經有官方emulator好耐。不過係on ps3(有玩ps3 jail break/ han的人早就用緊)。問題反而係ps3呢件問題兒童,佢個存在本來就同GPU站係兩個極端來的。即使到現在GPGPU橫行的現時,要用來emulate佢還是問題多。當然,如果AMD 有魔法可以溶咗粒cell d機能落佢D CPU/GPU chipset裏面就正正了
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舊 04-19-19, 02:58 PM   #11
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又8核又光追GPU又SSD $499邊有可能?為搶市佔?
8K想下算啦,做到穩定60-120FPS,2K我都接受
咁多樣睇都係SSD比較現實同實在


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舊 04-19-19, 07:09 PM   #12
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PS5應該會買
但係聖光和諧愈嚟愈離譜呢
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舊 04-19-19, 09:12 PM   #13
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又8核又光追GPU又SSD $499邊有可能?為搶市佔?
8K想下算啦,做到穩定60-120FPS,2K我都接受
咁多樣睇都係SSD比較現實同實在
下代標準係4K60Hz
PS5估計仲有年幾先出, 到時元件成本會比現時為低。


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舊 04-19-19, 09:14 PM   #14
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又8核又光追GPU又SSD $499邊有可能?為搶市佔?
8K想下算啦,做到穩定60-120FPS,2K我都接受
咁多樣睇都係SSD比較現實同實在
其實除左老任其他都係蝕住賣硬件吧
2020/2021 有果個spec 作為console 一體機 唔特別誇張
但講話出到8k
睇近幾代主機都慣哂
「出到」1080 實際絕大部份game 720
出到4k就上1080
基本上遇佢都係做到穩定4K 60啦
由手機版發出
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舊 04-19-19, 10:47 PM   #15
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就算係今時今日,PS4 pro 都唔可以穩行1080P /60fps
我唔覺得ps5 可以穩行4K /60 fps
當然,部主機落多d 本錢就乜都得. 係Sony 會唔會行返ps3初期條路姐
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舊 04-20-19, 01:50 AM   #16
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性能隨著時間改變,到時就會又出多一部pro版
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舊 04-20-19, 09:45 AM   #17
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就算係今時今日,PS4 pro 都唔可以穩行1080P /60fps
我唔覺得ps5 可以穩行4K /60 fps
當然,部主機落多d 本錢就乜都得. 係Sony 會唔會行返ps3初期條路姐


Pro行唔到1080P 60FPS,係因為APU粒cpu太弱frame rate難做高,係呢一代機既死症

今次PS5用返粒正常cpu應該會解決到問題,4K 60FPS 中特效我覺得絕對冇問題,開高特效有無60 fps就要睇下final spce係咩料先判斷到

其實我最想ps5隻隻game都有得比玩家選frame rate優先定畫質優先

而家pro都有,但唔係隻隻game都有得比玩家自由決定


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舊 04-20-19, 10:01 AM   #18
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Pro行唔到1080P 60FPS,係因為APU粒cpu太弱frame rate難做高,係呢一代機既死症

今次PS5用返粒正常cpu應該會解決到問題,4K 60FPS 中特效我覺得絕對冇問題,開高特效有無60 fps就要睇下final spce係咩料先判斷到

其實我最想ps5隻隻game都有得比玩家選frame rate優先定畫質優先

而家pro都有,但唔係隻隻game都有得比玩家自由決定


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乜顯示fps唔係GPU問題嗎?


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舊 04-20-19, 10:51 AM   #19
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乜顯示fps唔係GPU問題嗎?
GPU同CPU同樣重要

今代用APU行GPGPU,搞到GPU要做埋CPU啲野變相降低左GPU啲性能

Xbox one x出之前點吹有6tflops 穩4K60,但都係死係cpu太弱達成唔到

呢個係今代既死症

就以Dark Souls 3做例子,放落pc用pro同級GPU已經穩1080p 60 FPS

詳細自已睇下編文

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...mance-analysis

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...s-3-at-1080p60

此篇文章於 04-20-19 10:55 AM 被 ayane123 編輯。
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舊 04-20-19, 10:58 AM   #20
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説穿了,就係我上邊所講 “成本(錢)的問題“
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舊 04-20-19, 11:09 AM   #21
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今代CPU 用 Zen2 based 係幾有睇頭
據講Zen 2 工程樣辨初步跑分已同i9-9900K差不多。


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舊 04-20-19, 11:32 AM   #22
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Ryzen 1,2代都勁啦,追貼intel
性價比超intel
到第三代,真心有d 期待係咩樣

相比硬件,其實我更想佢做好個OS
PS4 時主機得8GB ram, OS 已佔用2-2.5GB.
用多d ram, in-game 時開其他應用程式會快d, 無錯係好事
不過就唔應該將資源(ram) 投放係一d 不必要嘅APPs上
主機,標身就係打機為主,搞好連線,in game chat 就已經好足夠
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舊 04-20-19, 11:47 AM   #23
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Ryzen 1,2代都勁啦,追貼intel
性價比超intel
到第三代,真心有d 期待係咩樣

相比硬件,其實我更想佢做好個OS
PS4 時主機得8GB ram, OS 已佔用2-2.5GB.
用多d ram, in-game 時開其他應用程式會快d, 無錯係好事
不過就唔應該將資源(ram) 投放係一d 不必要嘅APPs上
主機,標身就係打機為主,搞好連線,in game chat 就已經好足夠
RAM個到,如果上面講既24GB RAM 4GB ddr4 RAM for OS係真

咁你唔洗擔心再有呢個問題

24GB RAM比曬game用,未來幾年都應該好夠

係驚佢計唔掂成本,最後縮到16GB RAM咁就有啲問題
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舊 04-20-19, 03:34 PM   #24
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Fps同畫質始終係矛盾關係
情願佢keep住1440/1800p 60fps算
好似隻狼咁,pro都無60fps , 有啲少部分位重要好lag ,無電腦嘅我好酸

其實畫質上嘅提升去到今代我覺得真係次要,反正再up都唔會有1-2 /2-3時咁驚艷
想佢放多啲資源去啲RAM度重好
好似pro咁可以直接cap 1080p 30fps片真係對無電腦嘅好方便,如果PS5 cap到4k60fps就正爆



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舊 04-21-19, 02:48 PM   #25
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傳聞話MS要整到下一代Xbox(代號Anaconda)性能要勁過PS5喎。消息指呢部機都係AMD Zen based同custom Navi, 具備RT功能, SSD storage, 大致上同PS5差不多。點


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