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舊 03-18-17, 04:31 PM   #26
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追O下新聞,原來DISNEY同導演係咁有心,O係片中對B&B原作詞人致敬。

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Howard Ashman, the brilliant lyricist who co-wrote the first film’s songs with his creative partner Alan Menken, was fighting a losing battle with AIDS as he worked on Beauty and the Beast. As Ashman was battling for his life, the stigma of being both gay and sick in the early 90s crept into his work. “It was his idea, not only to make it into a musical but also to make Beast one of the two central characters,” Condon explained. “Until then, it had mostly been Belle’s story that they had been telling.”

“Specifically for him, it was a metaphor for AIDS,” Condon continued. “He was cursed, and this curse had brought sorrow on all those people who loved him, and maybe there was a chance for a miracle—and a way for the curse to be lifted. It was a very concrete thing that he was doing.” Ashman wrote the film’s now-famous lyrics while he was dying in his home, attended by a private nurse paid for by Disney studio chief Jeffrey Katzenberg. Ashman died before Beauty and the Beast was released in theaters, and the end credits of the animated film pay homage to his legacy.

According to Beauty and the Beast’s producer Don Hahn, the pitchforks-and-torches song “Kill the Beast” was a chance for Ashman to write about his disease and feeling ostracized. “Howard was struggling with AIDS at the same time, [and] the ‘Kill The Beast’ song was almost a metaphor for that,” he told Den of Geek in 2010. “He was really dealing with a debilitating disease, in an era when it was stigmatized. And so, there were so many of those underpinnings to the movie that people may not have seen.”

Knowing that context, the lyrics—“We don't like what we don’t understand / in fact it scares us / and this monster is mysterious at least / Bring your guns / bring your knives / save your children and your wives / we’ll save our village and our lives”—take on an even more tragic cast.

Ashman was just one of many gay artists silenced too soon. Fans of his work—which also includes Little Shop of Horrors, The Little Mermaid, and parts of Aladdin—have long wondered what other brilliant songs the world missed out on when it lost Ashman. He wrote genius songs about wanting more or somewhere that’s green; imagine if he had been able to channel that feeling into stories about his actual lived, gay experience. (His early musical adaptation of Kurt Vonnegut’s God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater was the closest Ashman got to writing about real “discarded Americans.”)

That’s the gift, ultimately, that Disney and Bill Condon are giving Ashman: something more. LeFou is a side character, yes, so we can consider this a first, small step—and Condon never says in the interview that LeFou’s sexuality is specifically a tribute to Ashman. But whatever his feelings for Gaston are, presumably Gad’s LeFou doesn’t have to hide them in code, the same way Ashman used metaphor to grapple with AIDS. In fact, you can see his flirtatious affection in every inflection of this new version of “Gaston.” In this increasingly progressive Disney, there appears to be room for gay men and women to join generations of frustrated princesses, lonely Beasts, and dejected street rats who have fallen in love. It’s a tale as old as time, really—one that’s at last being told.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...-howard-ashman
想問呢套3D同DOCTOR STRANGE比差幾遠?

原本只係諗住睇2D版,如果3D唔太差會俾多少少支持O下。


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舊 03-18-17, 06:09 PM   #27
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所謂引起各方反對嘅 HeHe moment....

真係得啖笑,極其量只係cam cam 哋肥仔跟班對大佬單向仰慕奉承行為,最尾仲要比大老因為要去英雄救美而掉低佢令佢乙女心破碎 Ending 時已經拗番直同女跳舞添
肥仔舞伴
Ending肥仔起初是同女跳舞,但最後換了partner同男人跳
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舊 03-18-17, 07:52 PM   #28
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追O下新聞,原來DISNEY同導演係咁有心,O係片中對B&B原作詞人致敬。

想問呢套3D同DOCTOR STRANGE比差幾遠?

原本只係諗住睇2D版,如果3D唔太差會俾多少少支持O下。
有啲3D掉野鏡頭幾有樂園內立體戲效果咁

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肥仔舞伴
Ending肥仔起初是同女跳舞,但最後換了partner同男人跳
咁睇咗樓上嘅內情,作為tribute character係唔錯嘅安排喇
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舊 03-19-17, 01:25 PM   #29
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所謂HEHE

新聞炒作威力果然好大

最尾大戰被女裝個幕加歌詞其實仲深刻過所謂hehe
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舊 03-19-17, 02:03 PM   #30
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所謂HEHE

新聞炒作威力果然好大

最尾大戰被女裝個幕加歌詞其實仲深刻過所謂hehe
的確
果位仁兄被變身後個欣喜笑容真係
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舊 03-19-17, 03:03 PM   #31
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https://youtu.be/nu4Pzsolyhg
呢個仲激過套戲
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舊 03-19-17, 11:30 PM   #32
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HE乜鬼HE話人獸交重易入D
BTW真係睇妙麗已經夠,歌好聽,畫面靚。


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舊 03-20-17, 12:13 AM   #33
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HE乜鬼HE話人獸交重易入D
BTW真係睇妙麗已經夠,歌好聽,畫面靚。
O係呢堆fundamentalists眼中,人獸好明顯唔係罪。

班友仲要開埋petitions....


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舊 03-20-17, 07:05 AM   #34
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嗰D所謂問題... 係咪特登整出黎呃票房架?

我睇完又無D人咁好記性記住HEHE場面...


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舊 03-20-17, 09:45 AM   #35
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面對兩套幾乎完全一樣嘅片, 論對白分鏡拍攝節奏, 噚晚明珠播嘅動畫版好多好多, 係爭在無Emma Watson啫。

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嗰D所謂問題... 係咪特登整出黎呃票房架?

我睇完又無D人咁好記性記住HEHE場面...
突顯「政治正確」掛? 好多動畫嘅角式呢度變咗膚色~


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舊 03-20-17, 09:55 AM   #36
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有心既丁點都會炒作到有問題架啦
明明跳舞果度咁好睇又唔留意, 走去留意果D過完都唔知重記唔記得既部份
不過今次變相宗教團體間接幫手宣傳真係多謝哂


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舊 03-20-17, 12:39 PM   #37
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嗰D所謂問題... 係咪特登整出黎呃票房架?

我睇完又無D人咁好記性記住HEHE場面...
呢頁開首咪POST佐DISNEY同導演O既原因囉...


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舊 03-24-17, 05:07 PM   #38
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舊 04-07-17, 07:11 AM   #39
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卒之睇佐,人靚聲甜!

知道原作曲家O既背景之後,先發覺歌詞同故事其實有唔少隱喻,知O既話就會有多一層體會,唔知亦無損失又唔會睇到一頭冒水。


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舊 01-19-19, 11:29 PM   #40
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係Netflix睇咗2017年真人版Beauty and the Beast,
睇完覺得17年真人版雖然比1991年的動畫版加咗幾首新歌,
但果幾首新歌唔係特別好聽,
而且角色的對白量又多咗,
略嫌拖慢整套戲的節奏同流暢度。

睇完官方MV之後諗點解唔直接搵Ariana Grande做Belle呢?
我覺得佢唱歌好聽同少女過Emma Watson。

其實我覺得2002年推出的動畫版Special Edition DVD果個版本最好睇,
最少當時新加果首歌Human Again好好聽先。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_prbnabl3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axySrE0Kg6k



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舊 05-15-19, 06:16 PM   #41
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見iTunes特價$78買返嚟收藏,
雖然主片無提供英文字幕,
但追加內容果邊有Sing-A-Long Mode比你跟歌詞唱…


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