PlayStation 4 2013年年末商戦に発売 - 第37頁 @ 電視遊戲討論版

( ﾟωﾟ)? · 02-22-13, 11:59 AM

PowerPC架構以前就勁,不過依家連Apple都轉晒AMD64/X86,PowerPC架構跟本係死路一條,遲死早死不如早啲轉

就算連Linux都叫你地自己攪掂,無official support~

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Is Ubuntu supported on PowerPC?

Ubuntu for PowerPC is now a community supported platform (the announcement) so you can nolonger pay Canonical to support your PowerPC machine. This also means that ISO downloads have been moved to the ports section of the Ubuntu sever, and are no longer on most mirrors. In fact, it is often hard to find any reference to PowerPC on the main Ubuntu website or packages.ubuntu.com.

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作者: HI_Ricky

困為久多良木健成team人走曬,平井一夫焗重新黎過.....

Oscarzero · 02-22-13, 12:02 PM

好, 我一定等三年先考慮出唔出機, 之前打番PS3 / Android Apps Game 算

川上双葉 · 02-22-13, 12:14 PM

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作者: 機場美少年

其實係未有4K遊戲開發吧?
感覺上係把原本放係PS3出的遊戲強化搬到去PS4做"首發"GAME。

新機種開頭D GAME似上世代是常識吧...

...
由手機版發出

卡柏 · 02-22-13, 12:25 PM

假如連ms既新機都係用amd u, 我諗到時買一部機就夠晒，因為遊戲一定冇分別...

川上双葉 · 02-22-13, 12:45 PM

話說依家部部都用x86
咁易搞不如port埋gta5做launch title俾ps4/xbox next-gen 啦
咁我實比錢首發

PS3/360唔上唔落

...
由手機版發出

D-Joe · 02-22-13, 12:48 PM

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作者: 名無しさん

PowerPC 啲遊戲機應該過渡唔到去 X86

目前微軟次世代Xbox兼容唔到既最出名第一方360 Game係Halo Wars

王小虎 · 02-22-13, 12:52 PM

開發商開發得痛苦，最後出的game唔係framerate不全就image quality略差，咁受罪的未又係用家。PS3已經係最大例子，有幾多multiplatform的遊戲真係好用心去用SPU，結果無視SPU當係一部普通電腦，寫出來都係次一級版本。

Gaikai技術應該用左喺三方面：
1. stream game，最主要係stream PS4 demo，即按即玩。PS3 games佢就講得好隱晦，留條後路比自己。
2. stream gameplay，將自己部PS4變成stream server，可以比friend睇同控制，但係畫面只係小視窗，所以條stream其實好細。同樣可以用vita來remote play。
3. fast download，都係Gaikai的技術，例如買左PSN game只要用幾分鐘download頭一段，唔需要等完全download就可以開始玩，佢會一路比你玩一路background download。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRyx8dFooV0

Metal Gear NT · 02-22-13, 01:33 PM

其實向下兼容都係心癮多過實際
我又唔覺得呢個功能可以主宰部機命運
我最初買唔到PS3皇族機都若有所失，但係睇返其實又冇乜所謂
PSV依家咁係因為本身lineup真係不濟

HI_Ricky · 02-22-13, 01:44 PM

arm arm 先有高清機戰, 我估都仲有4-5隻玩先出PS4 版了, XD

DC 97 · 02-22-13, 01:49 PM

$3000 先入~

TCS_disable · 02-22-13, 01:51 PM

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作者: Navism

我又唔覺得會死, 當連PS3當年出到咁又咁貴, 幾年後減價都開始多人買又或者賺到錢.

我意思係久多良木式嘅 PS

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作者: Metal Gear NT

其實向下兼容都係心癮多過實際
我又唔覺得呢個功能可以主宰部機命運
我最初買唔到PS3皇族機都若有所失，但係睇返其實又冇乜所謂

係我黎講係一半半, 問題一諗到堆 DLC 係部 PS3 死(+停產) 之後就無晒, 感覺有d唔知想點

pet3 · 02-22-13, 02:03 PM

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作者: TCS_disable

我意思係久多良木式嘅 PS

係我黎講係一半半, 問題一諗到堆 DLC 係部 PS3 死(+停產) 之後就無曬, 感覺有d唔知想點

dlc 跟帳戶嘛
相信未來能支援到既.......

再說
你部n64 /超任/ss 壞左之後一樣就咩都無曬

TCS_disable · 02-22-13, 02:06 PM

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作者: pet3

再說
你部n64 /超任/ss 壞左之後一樣就咩都無曬

係姐... 今次反動咁大,係Software, 唔係實體碟

仲有成堆DLC 話有效期去到 2038年年頭都仲有得兌換

藍鞋子 · 02-22-13, 02:23 PM

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作者: Metal Gear NT

其實向下兼容都係心癮多過實際
我又唔覺得呢個功能可以主宰部機命運
我最初買唔到PS3皇族機都若有所失，但係睇返其實又冇乜所謂
PSV依家咁係因為本身lineup真係不濟

其實兼容算係廠送畀玩家既禮物
支持左咁耐正版遊戲,數量一定唔會少
試諗下有日部機停產+壞埋
堆正版遊戲就變哂廢物,想重溫下都唔得(就算Stream play都未必隻隻game有)

ps2已經停左產,ps4居然唔兼容返ps2 d game,( ps3都有隔代兼容,可以玩返ps1 d game)
買落大堆ps2 game既人就慘了

ps3都有日會停產,到時又一大堆ps3 game變垃圾

特別係現今太多新遊戲都一蟹不如一蟹
有時想玩返舊既game算
但sony連呢個機會都唔畀你
咁d遊戲收藏黎做乜?

Alpha · 02-22-13, 02:29 PM

全球die-hard xbox fans 對ps4 回應

Xbox Fans React to the PlayStation 4 Announcement

By now you've seen all of our playstation 4 announcement coverage. Naturally, we on the IGN Xbox team wanted to knowwhat our loyal, die-hard Xbox fans thought of Sony's big next-gen unveiling. So we put out the call on Twitter and got back hundreds upon hundreds of replies. Here are some of the best, and be sure to add your thoughts in the Comments below, because trust me -- Microsoft is watching.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...4-announcement

D-Joe · 02-22-13, 02:35 PM

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作者: Alpha

全球die-hard xbox fans 對ps4 回應

Xbox Fans React to the PlayStation 4 Announcement

By now you've seen all of our playstation 4 announcement coverage. Naturally, we on the IGN Xbox team wanted to knowwhat our loyal, die-hard Xbox fans thought of Sony's big next-gen unveiling. So we put out the call on Twitter and got back hundreds upon hundreds of replies. Here are some of the best, and be sure to add your thoughts in the Comments below, because trust me -- Microsoft is watching.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...4-announcement

關於呢樣,M$自己都幾悠閒下

食爆谷睇直播

https://twitter.com/majornelson/stat...66881597444098

knight-philip · 02-22-13, 02:44 PM

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作者: TCS_disable

係我黎講係一半半, 問題一諗到堆 DLC 係部 PS3 死(+停產) 之後就無晒, 感覺有d唔知想點

這不就跟早前新聞那個港幣戰士一樣嘛....
老實說找一找登記PSN時的聲明的話一定會有條款說PSN關掉的話不會賠償什麼的

想留個紀念就拍張熙吧

HI_Ricky · 02-22-13, 02:53 PM

其實點解要對下兼容?
有番咁上下知歷都知唔係必然...

Navism · 02-22-13, 02:54 PM

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作者: pet3

dlc 跟帳戶嘛
相信未來能支援到既.......

再說
你部n64 /超任/ss 壞左之後一樣就咩都無曬

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作者: 藍鞋子

其實兼容算係廠送畀玩家既禮物
支持左咁耐正版遊戲,數量一定唔會少
試諗下有日部機停產+壞埋
堆正版遊戲就變哂廢物,想重溫下都唔得(就算Stream play都未必隻隻game有)

ps2已經停左產,ps4居然唔兼容返ps2 d game,( ps3都有隔代兼容,可以玩返ps1 d game)
買落大堆ps2 game既人就慘了

ps3都有日會停產,到時又一大堆ps3 game變垃圾

特別係現今太多新遊戲都一蟹不如一蟹
有時想玩返舊既game算
但sony連呢個機會都唔畀你
咁d遊戲收藏黎做乜?

或者咁講, 過去硬體唔得, 大家都知軟體media唔同,
但同樣係bur-ray or dlc, 又同一戶口. 就應該比支援要攪
除非話PSN account 唔共用.
任記系統差, 都攪個wii vc 有既game再比100 yen or 150yen轉去wii u 可以 support wii u pad.

我認為sony都應該比人同超低價去轉做ps4 format.

強化人間ですの～★ · 02-22-13, 03:02 PM

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作者: Navism

或者咁講, 過去硬體唔得, 大家都知軟體media唔同,
但同樣係bur-ray or dlc, 又同一戶口. 就應該比支援要攪
除非話PSN account 唔共用.
任記系統差, 都攪個wii vc 有既game再比100 yen or 150yen轉去wii u 可以 support wii u pad.

我認為sony都應該比人同超低價去轉做ps4 format.

UMD passport真係整左，你地咪又係鬧

( ﾟωﾟ)? · 02-22-13, 03:03 PM

http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2013/02/21/amd/
AMD and The Sony PS4. Allow Me To Elaborate.

February 21, 2013 by John Taylor

Yesterday, Sony gave a sneak-peek at its next-generation PlayStation®4 (PS4™) game console coming later this year and, here at AMD, we couldn’t be more excited. Bringing a supercharged PC architecture that combines next-gen hardware, software, and the fastest game network in the world. Oh, and this is all powered by a semi-custom designed AMD accelerated processing unit (APU) jointly developed in coordination with Sony!
In fact, the PS4 is the first announced design win based on semi-custom AMD APUs. This further demonstrates our commitment to take AMD technology into adjacent high growth markets as we diversify beyond the PC.
What exactly is a semi-custom APU? Let me elaborate:
At the most basic level, an APU is a single chip that combines general-purpose x86 central processing unit (CPU) cores with a graphics processing unit (GPU) and a variety of system elements, including memory controllers, specialized video decoders, display outputs, etc. Our semi-custom solutions take the same treasure trove of graphics; compute and multi-media IP found in our APUs, and customize them for customers who have a very specific high-volume product that could benefit from AMD’s leading-edge technologies.
In the case of the PS4, we leveraged the building blocks of our 2013 product roadmap – the same technologies you find in the latest AMD APUs powering PCs, ultrathin notebooks and tablets – to create a solution that incorporates our upcoming, low-power AMD “Jaguar” CPU cores with next-generation AMD Radeon™ graphics delivering nearly 2 TFLOPS of compute performance! This unique APU architecture enables game developers to easily harness the power of parallel processing to fundamentally change the console gaming experience. Not only creating the opportunity for new possibilities in software design, but also faster and more fluid graphics.
This is going to be a very exciting year for gamers, especially for those with AMD hardware in their PCs and consoles, as we have even more game-changing (pun intended) announcements still to come.
Look for some more exciting things happening at the Game Developers Conference (GDC) in March when we will provide even more info on how we are working with game developers to make AMD the hardware of choice for running the best games!

John Taylor is the Vice President of Global Communications and Industry Marketing at AMD. His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites, and references to third party trademarks, are provided for convenience and illustrative purposes only. Unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such links, and no third party endorsement of AMD or any of its products is implied.

Alucard_Lam · 02-22-13, 03:23 PM

既然係die hard fans,倒戈嘅情況定當好小,ps4做倒嘅durango一樣可以.multi platform嘅preformance基本一致.都係睇下兩邊個marketing做唔做倒野,欖倒多幾樣exclusive (科水).始終hard core gamer都係重點將打機放首位.

HI_Ricky · 02-22-13, 03:24 PM

http://blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/archives/1751742.html

pet3 · 02-22-13, 03:27 PM

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作者: Navism

或者咁講, 過去硬體唔得, 大家都知軟體media唔同,
但同樣係bur-ray or dlc, 又同一戶口. 就應該比支援要攪
除非話PSN account 唔共用.
任記系統差, 都攪個wii vc 有既game再比100 yen or 150yen轉去wii u 可以 support wii u pad.

我認為sony都應該比人同超低價去轉做ps4 format.

CPU 架購不同
PS3 皇機能玩PS2只因為他真的裝了PS2 的晶片 (80GB 第1代的失敗模擬就算了)

你要佢重寫,又要成本,免費做比你,又好重皮
收錢 ....又比人鬧我PS3 果時又不是玩番版我比左錢架啦

如果不是直系進化預佢玩不到是正常啦

WiiU 好像仲係用緊NGC 果粒再強化少少當新cpu ?(之前看新聞說)

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作者: 強化人間ですの～★

UMD passport真係整左，你地咪又係鬧

PSV果時仲聽唔夠咩

我明明有買過點解仲要比錢

王小虎 · 02-22-13, 03:33 PM

如果PS4加粒cell加粒RSX落去，要比多$1000(亂估)，結果要賣成$4500一部，然後PS4太貴冇人買，開始冇廠出PS4 games，到時向下兼容真係發揮最大作用了，因為只得PS3 games玩。我都明有時希望人人都有，不過都要回歸現實。而家個spec已經比人估好貴（8gb gddr5），再加埋BC，有自殺feel。

02-22-13, 12:02 PM	#902
Oscarzero Game Master VT魔人註冊日期: Jun 2004 文章: 2,038 Oscar Zero	好, 我一定等三年先考慮出唔出機, 之前打番PS3 / Android Apps Game 算 __________________ Virtua Tennis 4 PS3/360版見?

02-22-13, 12:45 PM	#905
川上双葉 God of Gamer みるをみる註冊日期: Dec 2005 文章: 6,493 hgckelvin	話說依家部部都用x86 咁易搞不如port埋gta5做launch title俾ps4/xbox next-gen 啦咁我實比錢首發 PS3/360唔上唔落... 由手機版發出

02-22-13, 01:33 PM	#908
Metal Gear NT Moderator 核搭載二足步行戰車註冊日期: Oct 2002 文章: 20,122 jasonpoon	其實向下兼容都係心癮多過實際我又唔覺得呢個功能可以主宰部機命運我最初買唔到PS3皇族機都若有所失，但係睇返其實又冇乜所謂 PSV依家咁係因為本身lineup真係不濟 __________________ All things Apple. Mac 討論版 \| iPod/iPhone + iTunes 討論區 XI

02-22-13, 01:44 PM	#909
HI_Ricky God of Gamer 深山人士註冊日期: Sep 2009 文章: 5,518 封左塵.... 封左塵....	arm arm 先有高清機戰, 我估都仲有4-5隻玩先出PS4 版了, XD __________________ 資深蘋果專業維修，至力為各Apple產品維修,升級,技術支援等服務。維修員有20年以上Apple產品支援經驗，曾接受Apple專業訓練,維修過程絕對專業可靠。可以直接與維修員對話，收費合理，而且令客人可以完全理解及查問產品上升級需求及維修問題 http:/www.machouse.hk https://www.facebook.com/machouse2004/ 另回收/維修各類特殊,開發,除錯用途主機,可以PM 我寵物用品零售 http://www.applecare.com.hk

02-22-13, 01:49 PM	#910
DC 97 The One 註冊日期: Jun 2003 文章: 21,734 3334-6659-7010 DC97	$3000 先入~ __________________ PS Vita Acc: dc97psv Xboxlive Acc: dc97sing PS3 Acc: dc97

02-22-13, 12:25 PM	#904
卡柏 God of Gamer 註冊日期: May 2004 文章: 8,699 palfong kapal	假如連ms既新機都係用amd u, 我諗到時買一部機就夠晒，因為遊戲一定冇分別...

02-22-13, 12:52 PM	#907
王小虎 God of Gamer 註冊日期: Apr 2002 文章: 7,807	開發商開發得痛苦，最後出的game唔係framerate不全就image quality略差，咁受罪的未又係用家。PS3已經係最大例子，有幾多multiplatform的遊戲真係好用心去用SPU，結果無視SPU當係一部普通電腦，寫出來都係次一級版本。 Gaikai技術應該用左喺三方面： 1. stream game，最主要係stream PS4 demo，即按即玩。PS3 games佢就講得好隱晦，留條後路比自己。 2. stream gameplay，將自己部PS4變成stream server，可以比friend睇同控制，但係畫面只係小視窗，所以條stream其實好細。同樣可以用vita來remote play。 3. fast download，都係Gaikai的技術，例如買左PSN game只要用幾分鐘download頭一段，唔需要等完全download就可以開始玩，佢會一路比你玩一路background download。 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRyx8dFooV0

02-22-13, 02:29 PM	#915
Alpha Crazy Gamer 註冊日期: Jul 2012 文章: 1,067	全球die-hard xbox fans 對ps4 回應 Xbox Fans React to the PlayStation 4 Announcement By now you've seen all of our playstation 4 announcement coverage. Naturally, we on the IGN Xbox team wanted to knowwhat our loyal, die-hard Xbox fans thought of Sony's big next-gen unveiling. So we put out the call on Twitter and got back hundreds upon hundreds of replies. Here are some of the best, and be sure to add your thoughts in the Comments below, because trust me -- Microsoft is watching. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...4-announcement

02-22-13, 02:53 PM	#918
HI_Ricky God of Gamer 深山人士註冊日期: Sep 2009 文章: 5,518 封左塵.... 封左塵....	其實點解要對下兼容? 有番咁上下知歷都知唔係必然... __________________ 資深蘋果專業維修，至力為各Apple產品維修,升級,技術支援等服務。維修員有20年以上Apple產品支援經驗，曾接受Apple專業訓練,維修過程絕對專業可靠。可以直接與維修員對話，收費合理，而且令客人可以完全理解及查問產品上升級需求及維修問題 http:/www.machouse.hk https://www.facebook.com/machouse2004/ 另回收/維修各類特殊,開發,除錯用途主機,可以PM 我寵物用品零售 http://www.applecare.com.hk

02-22-13, 03:03 PM	#921
( ﾟωﾟ)? God of Gamer Volks初音已接收註冊日期: Dec 2010 文章: 9,253	http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2013/02/21/amd/ AMD and The Sony PS4. Allow Me To Elaborate. February 21, 2013 by John Taylor Yesterday, Sony gave a sneak-peek at its next-generation PlayStation®4 (PS4™) game console coming later this year and, here at AMD, we couldn’t be more excited. Bringing a supercharged PC architecture that combines next-gen hardware, software, and the fastest game network in the world. Oh, and this is all powered by a semi-custom designed AMD accelerated processing unit (APU) jointly developed in coordination with Sony! In fact, the PS4 is the first announced design win based on semi-custom AMD APUs. This further demonstrates our commitment to take AMD technology into adjacent high growth markets as we diversify beyond the PC. What exactly is a semi-custom APU? Let me elaborate: At the most basic level, an APU is a single chip that combines general-purpose x86 central processing unit (CPU) cores with a graphics processing unit (GPU) and a variety of system elements, including memory controllers, specialized video decoders, display outputs, etc. Our semi-custom solutions take the same treasure trove of graphics; compute and multi-media IP found in our APUs, and customize them for customers who have a very specific high-volume product that could benefit from AMD’s leading-edge technologies. In the case of the PS4, we leveraged the building blocks of our 2013 product roadmap – the same technologies you find in the latest AMD APUs powering PCs, ultrathin notebooks and tablets – to create a solution that incorporates our upcoming, low-power AMD “Jaguar” CPU cores with next-generation AMD Radeon™ graphics delivering nearly 2 TFLOPS of compute performance! This unique APU architecture enables game developers to easily harness the power of parallel processing to fundamentally change the console gaming experience. Not only creating the opportunity for new possibilities in software design, but also faster and more fluid graphics. This is going to be a very exciting year for gamers, especially for those with AMD hardware in their PCs and consoles, as we have even more game-changing (pun intended) announcements still to come. Look for some more exciting things happening at the Game Developers Conference (GDC) in March when we will provide even more info on how we are working with game developers to make AMD the hardware of choice for running the best games! *John Taylor is the Vice President of Global Communications and Industry Marketing at AMD.* His postings are his own opinions and may not represent AMD’s positions, strategies or opinions. Links to third party sites, and references to third party trademarks, are provided for convenience and illustrative purposes only. Unless explicitly stated, AMD is not responsible for the contents of such links, and no third party endorsement of AMD or any of its products is implied. __________________ PS4線上中文用戶指南 PS4系統軟件更新遙控遊玩＼(^o^)／ｵﾜﾀ (;´Д`) ヽ(; ﾟдﾟ)ﾉ (￣∀￣) (´・ω・`) ∠(ﾟДﾟ)／ｷﾀ━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━ !!!!(´๑•ω•๑`) (๑д๑) (˘ω˘)zZ ( ﾟωﾟ ) ∞ヾ(´д´)ﾉ ก็ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔก้ (¯ 3 ¯)❤(◕‿◕✿) ('A`)（･ิω･ิ) (´д｀) <(￣ω￣･)> 〆(・ω・`) (´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)淚目 (๑•̀ㅂ•́)و✧掂 +×(ง⌐□ل͜□) 退休啦! (ง︡'-'︠)ง┗( ✧_✧)┛*(ʘдʘ) EA-y(￣Д￣)｡o :game怪有咁勁得咁勁,裝備有咁屎得咁屎,咪等啲友玩得咁舒服,玩完嗱嗱聲pay-to-win.抽loot box有咁難得咁難,box有咁罕有放咁罕有,啲課長咪啫聲抽完抽過第二次囉.

02-22-13, 03:23 PM	#922
Alucard_Lam Senior Gamer 註冊日期: Sep 2009 文章: 172	既然係die hard fans,倒戈嘅情況定當好小,ps4做倒嘅durango一樣可以.multi platform嘅preformance基本一致.都係睇下兩邊個marketing做唔做倒野,欖倒多幾樣exclusive (科水).始終hard core gamer都係重點將打機放首位. 此篇文章於 02-22-13 03:30 PM 被 Alucard_Lam 編輯。

02-22-13, 03:24 PM	#923
HI_Ricky God of Gamer 深山人士註冊日期: Sep 2009 文章: 5,518 封左塵.... 封左塵....	http://blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/archives/1751742.html __________________ 資深蘋果專業維修，至力為各Apple產品維修,升級,技術支援等服務。維修員有20年以上Apple產品支援經驗，曾接受Apple專業訓練,維修過程絕對專業可靠。可以直接與維修員對話，收費合理，而且令客人可以完全理解及查問產品上升級需求及維修問題 http:/www.machouse.hk https://www.facebook.com/machouse2004/ 另回收/維修各類特殊,開發,除錯用途主機,可以PM 我寵物用品零售 http://www.applecare.com.hk

02-22-13, 03:33 PM	#925
王小虎 God of Gamer 註冊日期: Apr 2002 文章: 7,807	如果PS4加粒cell加粒RSX落去，要比多$1000(亂估)，結果要賣成$4500一部，然後PS4太貴冇人買，開始冇廠出PS4 games，到時向下兼容真係發揮最大作用了，因為只得PS3 games玩。我都明有時希望人人都有，不過都要回歸現實。而家個spec已經比人估好貴（8gb gddr5），再加埋BC，有自殺feel。

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