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草薙さん 11:48 AM 03-30-16
作者: N0T51B:
呢頭買完機無幾耐又出新機
以後個個都會觀望費事轉頭又出新機/減價大使計劃
最主要係減價大使計劃 呢頭買完機無幾耐又出新機
以後個個都會觀望費事轉頭又出新機/減價大使計劃
N0T51B 12:39 PM 03-30-16
作者: lodoss:
其實WiiU係2012年尾出,
一般5年左右就出新一代機,
咁計落正常出年出部新機,
但WiiU又賣得唔好, 所以提早出新機都唔奇
通常都係6年週期其實WiiU係2012年尾出,
一般5年左右就出新一代機,
咁計落正常出年出部新機,
但WiiU又賣得唔好, 所以提早出新機都唔奇
但係今次出game非常慢
而加啱啱夠有一定數量game又換新平台
上年先叫人耐心等待下轉個頭就出部新家用機
除非NX陣容超強，如果唔係消費者一定會花長啲時間觀望
pet3 02:15 PM 03-30-16
作者: yaya:
但如果NX玩得返Wii U game, 即係你至少都仲可以1-2年內有新Wii U可以玩
點解會有「信任」問題?
講到好似wiiu有game玩咁.....但如果NX玩得返Wii U game, 即係你至少都仲可以1-2年內有新Wii U可以玩
點解會有「信任」問題?
明明發售表一直接近空白
信長 02:22 PM 03-30-16
作者: pet3:
講到好似wiiu有game玩咁.....
明明發售表一直接近空白
WIIU 初出時有一枇GAME,之後 都好多時間係空白期講到好似wiiu有game玩咁.....
明明發售表一直接近空白
我都係上年中先入機,幾個月無買GAME了,
就算佢出NX ,我都唔會即入, 反正任系GAME 都實有貨
lodoss 02:35 PM 03-30-16
作者: N0T51B:
通常都係6年週期
但係今次出game非常慢
而加啱啱夠有一定數量game又換新平台
上年先叫人耐心等待下轉個頭就出部新家用機
除非NX陣容超強，如果唔係消費者一定會花長啲時間觀望
係Wii好賣先6年, 任記出機年表如下: 通常都係6年週期
但係今次出game非常慢
而加啱啱夠有一定數量game又換新平台
上年先叫人耐心等待下轉個頭就出部新家用機
除非NX陣容超強，如果唔係消費者一定會花長啲時間觀望
紅白機(83) ---> 超任(90) ---> N64(96) --->GC(01) ---> Wii(06) ---> WiiU(12)
N0T51B 04:59 PM 03-30-16
作者: lodoss:
係Wii好賣先6年, 任記出機年表如下:
紅白機(83) ---> 超任(90) ---> N64(96) --->GC(01) ---> Wii(06) ---> WiiU(12)
都係嗰句，出game出得自然要拉長週期係Wii好賣先6年, 任記出機年表如下:
紅白機(83) ---> 超任(90) ---> N64(96) --->GC(01) ---> Wii(06) ---> WiiU(12)
而加部機game都唔夠就去下一代會打擊消費者信心
尤其是我唔相信未來老任做game會有幾快...
wsx360 06:32 PM 03-30-16
作者: N0T51B:
都係嗰句，出game出得自然要拉長週期
而加部機game都唔夠就去下一代會打擊消費者信心
尤其是我唔相信未來老任做game會有幾快...
WiiU本身就係一個打擊消費者信心既存在都係嗰句，出game出得自然要拉長週期
而加部機game都唔夠就去下一代會打擊消費者信心
尤其是我唔相信未來老任做game會有幾快...
以目前狀況黎睇，WiiU既壽命長多1-2年意義不大
由手機版發出
chunmanx 10:11 PM 03-30-16
其實唔好看得咁重
玩得開心就是
我都係買過4隻GAME
都玩得開心
一季爆一隻的話都夠玩GE
玩得開心就是
我都係買過4隻GAME
都玩得開心
一季爆一隻的話都夠玩GE
Terry仔 10:36 PM 03-30-16
作者: 信長:
WIIU 初出時有一枇GAME,之後 都好多時間係空白期
我都係上年中先入機,幾個月無買GAME了,
就算佢出NX ,我都唔會即入, 反正任系GAME 都實有貨
Wii 初期，到中，少少後期都有好多gameWIIU 初出時有一枇GAME,之後 都好多時間係空白期
我都係上年中先入機,幾個月無買GAME了,
就算佢出NX ,我都唔會即入, 反正任系GAME 都實有貨
係後尾兩年先少game
pet3 10:46 PM 03-30-16
作者: chunmanx:
其實唔好看得咁重
玩得開心就是
我都係買過4隻GAME
都玩得開心
一季爆一隻的話都夠玩GE
其實唔好看得咁重
玩得開心就是
我都係買過4隻GAME
都玩得開心
一季爆一隻的話都夠玩GE
輕玩家到咁之後說夠game玩.....
yaya 11:52 PM 03-30-16
作者: pet3:
講到好似wiiu有game玩咁.....
明明發售表一直接近空白
講到好似wiiu有game玩咁.....
明明發售表一直接近空白
作者: chunmanx:
其實唔好看得咁重
玩得開心就是
我都係買過4隻GAME
都玩得開心
一季爆一隻的話都夠玩GE
其實唔好看得咁重
玩得開心就是
我都係買過4隻GAME
都玩得開心
一季爆一隻的話都夠玩GE
作者: pet3:
輕玩家到咁之後說夠game玩.....
人大咗, 打機時間無可避免少咗, 呢個確係事實 輕玩家到咁之後說夠game玩.....
所以, 我依家睇重質(創新性)多過量, 至少我係咁
作者: wsx360:
WiiU本身就係一個打擊消費者信心既存在
以目前狀況黎睇，WiiU既壽命長多1-2年意義不大
由手機版發出
初初個過度期, 應該唔少都會出雙版本WiiU本身就係一個打擊消費者信心既存在
以目前狀況黎睇，WiiU既壽命長多1-2年意義不大
由手機版發出
或者, 淨出Wii U版, 但NX就可以上網update去增加功能!
N0T51B 02:43 AM 03-31-16
作者: wsx360:
WiiU本身就係一個打擊消費者信心既存在
以目前狀況黎睇，WiiU既壽命長多1-2年意義不大
由手機版發出
除非佢真係玩handheld console 互通，如果就咁齋出console我相信同wiiu命運差不多WiiU本身就係一個打擊消費者信心既存在
以目前狀況黎睇，WiiU既壽命長多1-2年意義不大
由手機版發出
信長 08:13 AM 03-31-16
Rumor, 節錄一段
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/syste...co-33060961/#2
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/syste...co-33060961/#2
作者: :
A media event will be announced in mid April. Event in late April after Starfox Zero Launches.
And... here we go again guys,
- 'Nintendo Reach' a.k.a. NX will be a staggered launch with console holiday 2016 and handheld mid 2017. Comes with a standard controller similar to the Pro.
"This is the name of Nintendo's new console - From what I have seen the logo is stylized in a variety of ways - One of them is stylized in a 90's Nintendo fashion and the other in a Wii/DS style -The marketing is split between hardcore gamers and Casuals."
- Is not backward compatible with Wii U but games will be ported to NX through a Reach setting and Wii U setting.
- The OS is one and the same for the console and held, sort of like Google chrome being used on different devices. Some games are shared.
- Is cartridge based, similar in size to 3DS carts, but more rectangular. Carts that can be used on both devices and have red and blue markers. Carts only on console have a blue marker and handheld only carts have the red marker.
- Handheld is about the size of the bottom screen of a 3DS XL with a freeform display which will be marketed as "The full immersion" display. it has some form of head tracking.
- Only major things online being pushed in regards to online are Voice chat, cloud saves and My nintendo missions.
- It lies in between The XBONE and PS4. Powerful and affordable.
NX will be launching with flagship titles The Legend of Zelda - The Fields of Dawn & a new 3D Mario dubbed Mario Underground (title TBD)
"Takes place in Truffle Kingdom underneath our familiar setting -You can explore this Kingdom to discover "Tunnels" to levels and "Gem" coins -it has all the Mario world's we have come to know and love but with a subterranean twist to each - A new Crystal Power up which lets Mario turn into a drill to tunnel around and for him to shoot projectiles -This is probably the most Story centric mainline game yet with the familiar crew meeting their Truffle Kingdom counter parts. -Bowser is playable. - "A graphic I saw showed a cross section of the Mushroom Kingdom then subworld then the Truffle kingdom."
Also,
- A new Animal Crossing is in the works.
- Retro Studios is making a 2017 holiday title dubbed Nintendo's All Stars (title TBD) and is an action RPG.
Well, what do you reckon SW? Worth a discussion providing that plenty of the old Sodium Chloride is at hand!
He has a few threads on the go so here's the forum link (on my phone btw so somebody could fix the link if the want).
花生下先....A media event will be announced in mid April. Event in late April after Starfox Zero Launches.
And... here we go again guys,
- 'Nintendo Reach' a.k.a. NX will be a staggered launch with console holiday 2016 and handheld mid 2017. Comes with a standard controller similar to the Pro.
"This is the name of Nintendo's new console - From what I have seen the logo is stylized in a variety of ways - One of them is stylized in a 90's Nintendo fashion and the other in a Wii/DS style -The marketing is split between hardcore gamers and Casuals."
- Is not backward compatible with Wii U but games will be ported to NX through a Reach setting and Wii U setting.
- The OS is one and the same for the console and held, sort of like Google chrome being used on different devices. Some games are shared.
- Is cartridge based, similar in size to 3DS carts, but more rectangular. Carts that can be used on both devices and have red and blue markers. Carts only on console have a blue marker and handheld only carts have the red marker.
- Handheld is about the size of the bottom screen of a 3DS XL with a freeform display which will be marketed as "The full immersion" display. it has some form of head tracking.
- Only major things online being pushed in regards to online are Voice chat, cloud saves and My nintendo missions.
- It lies in between The XBONE and PS4. Powerful and affordable.
NX will be launching with flagship titles The Legend of Zelda - The Fields of Dawn & a new 3D Mario dubbed Mario Underground (title TBD)
"Takes place in Truffle Kingdom underneath our familiar setting -You can explore this Kingdom to discover "Tunnels" to levels and "Gem" coins -it has all the Mario world's we have come to know and love but with a subterranean twist to each - A new Crystal Power up which lets Mario turn into a drill to tunnel around and for him to shoot projectiles -This is probably the most Story centric mainline game yet with the familiar crew meeting their Truffle Kingdom counter parts. -Bowser is playable. - "A graphic I saw showed a cross section of the Mushroom Kingdom then subworld then the Truffle kingdom."
Also,
- A new Animal Crossing is in the works.
- Retro Studios is making a 2017 holiday title dubbed Nintendo's All Stars (title TBD) and is an action RPG.
Well, what do you reckon SW? Worth a discussion providing that plenty of the old Sodium Chloride is at hand!
He has a few threads on the go so here's the forum link (on my phone btw so somebody could fix the link if the want).
N0T51B 10:30 AM 03-31-16
通常仔細到連包裝識別都講埋可信性都...
不過呢個世界充滿驚喜
不過呢個世界充滿驚喜
歌絲˙暮斯 12:29 PM 03-31-16
作為一個完全唔 buy 任系公仔既 WIIU 用戶，我玩得好開心。
而且中意 d game 全部都唔係 PS/XB/PC 共通，真真正正既獨家。
由手機版發出
而且中意 d game 全部都唔係 PS/XB/PC 共通，真真正正既獨家。
由手機版發出
chunmanx 09:42 PM 03-31-16
作者: pet3:
輕玩家到咁之後說夠game玩.....
一係輕到好似我咁輕玩家到咁之後說夠game玩.....
一係重就手提機、手機再加多部PS4/XONE
四機一齊玩重真係玩得幾多？
重未計SPLATOON呢類ONLINE原素可以KEEP住玩成年
lineage19 10:53 PM 03-31-16
老任的game唔係睇量，而係睇質素
老任出品的game真心質素唔會差得去邊
人地個game表係少game，但起馬大部份都好吸引，好玩。唔似d質素參差，又或者只有劇情但gameplay完全唔得的game咁玩完都唔知自己玩緊咩。我呢家想係“打機“唔係睇片，睇片我去睇電影或者睇人打機就夠了。
再講人大左，工作時間愈來愈長，放工返到屋企得1～2個鐘，仲要多數時間都要陪另一半，可以打機的時間真係好寶貴。選擇遊戲的方向就會更重質唔重量。你就愈唔會再理個game表入面有幾多game
我買game已經叫濫，覺得有趣就會買，唔會理有冇時間玩。所以自己買返黎的game 十隻入面打得爆一隻已經還神。
ps4入手咁耐計計埋埋有十幾隻game最接近爆機的就只有人龍0，到終章而已
老任出品的game真心質素唔會差得去邊
人地個game表係少game，但起馬大部份都好吸引，好玩。唔似d質素參差，又或者只有劇情但gameplay完全唔得的game咁玩完都唔知自己玩緊咩。我呢家想係“打機“唔係睇片，睇片我去睇電影或者睇人打機就夠了。
再講人大左，工作時間愈來愈長，放工返到屋企得1～2個鐘，仲要多數時間都要陪另一半，可以打機的時間真係好寶貴。選擇遊戲的方向就會更重質唔重量。你就愈唔會再理個game表入面有幾多game
我買game已經叫濫，覺得有趣就會買，唔會理有冇時間玩。所以自己買返黎的game 十隻入面打得爆一隻已經還神。
ps4入手咁耐計計埋埋有十幾隻game最接近爆機的就只有人龍0，到終章而已
D.K. 01:56 AM 04-01-16
唔可以重量又重質咩? 強人所難的話咁退而款款良作可以了吧?
典解變左食量細嘅先係主導, 先係潮流?
反而追求多D GAME玩係錯?
GOOD THEORY. 既然係咁WiiU 咪嬴盡全世界囉? 咁老任就唔洗出NX啦
老實講句, 老任而家係話緊大家知佢要賺多好多好多$, 你地咁輕咁小眾唔夠佢zip牙罅囉
典解變左食量細嘅先係主導, 先係潮流?
反而追求多D GAME玩係錯?
GOOD THEORY. 既然係咁WiiU 咪嬴盡全世界囉? 咁老任就唔洗出NX啦
老實講句, 老任而家係話緊大家知佢要賺多好多好多$, 你地咁輕咁小眾唔夠佢zip牙罅囉
N0T51B 02:22 AM 04-01-16
作者: D.K.:
唔可以重量又重質咩? 強人所難的話咁退而款款良作可以了吧?
典解變左食量細嘅先係主導, 先係潮流?
反而追求多D GAME玩係錯?
GOOD THEORY. 既然係咁WiiU 咪嬴盡全世界囉? 咁老任就唔洗出NX啦
老實講句, 老任而家係話緊大家知佢要賺多好多好多$, 你地咁輕咁小眾唔夠佢zip牙罅囉
咪係唔可以重量又重質咩? 強人所難的話咁退而款款良作可以了吧?
典解變左食量細嘅先係主導, 先係潮流?
反而追求多D GAME玩係錯?
GOOD THEORY. 既然係咁WiiU 咪嬴盡全世界囉? 咁老任就唔洗出NX啦
老實講句, 老任而家係話緊大家知佢要賺多好多好多$, 你地咁輕咁小眾唔夠佢zip牙罅囉
我只希望佢可以去返gamecube時咁多game姐，已經唔高要求架啦
但wiiu沒有最差只有更差...
如果NX唔能夠保證每月1-2game, 都唔會好得去邊
噹噹dondon 02:44 AM 04-01-16
遊戲年貨化就係量大過質既證明…邊有可能令量同質可以同等?
除非間公司有錢到可以隻隻GAME投資100憶去整
拎人地幾十間公司既產量同1間公司產量 點有得比
好彩老任依家D GAME都冇跟潮流年貨化 快極都要2年開發
講緊係D較小型既作品…大型作品冇番4年都等唔到
係有好有唔好 量產唔到大量作品
雖然隻ZELDA等得好苦...但成品通常好過趕住出
WIIU始終係老任第一次入高清平台 製作上冇咁多經驗
突破左我覺得會回番元氣 個情況有D似以前PS3早期日廠咁
除非間公司有錢到可以隻隻GAME投資100憶去整
拎人地幾十間公司既產量同1間公司產量 點有得比
好彩老任依家D GAME都冇跟潮流年貨化 快極都要2年開發
講緊係D較小型既作品…大型作品冇番4年都等唔到
係有好有唔好 量產唔到大量作品
雖然隻ZELDA等得好苦...但成品通常好過趕住出
WIIU始終係老任第一次入高清平台 製作上冇咁多經驗
突破左我覺得會回番元氣 個情況有D似以前PS3早期日廠咁
D.K. 01:27 PM 04-01-16
作者: N0T51B:
咪係
我只希望佢可以去返gamecube時咁多game姐，已經唔高要求架啦
但wiiu沒有最差只有更差...
如果NX唔能夠保證每月1-2game, 都唔會好得去邊
唔洗要去到PS/PS2 遊戲濫發嘅地步咪係
我只希望佢可以去返gamecube時咁多game姐，已經唔高要求架啦
但wiiu沒有最差只有更差...
如果NX唔能夠保證每月1-2game, 都唔會好得去邊
GAMECUBE 年代真係唔錯.
wsx360 02:00 PM 04-01-16
作者: N0T51B:
除非佢真係玩handheld console 互通，如果就咁齋出console我相信同wiiu命運差不多
而家手提機性能越來越勁除非佢真係玩handheld console 互通，如果就咁齋出console我相信同wiiu命運差不多
其實有好多任記game都唔需要分家用,手提版本
例如: paper mario,孖車,星之卡比......
除非機能所限,唔係既話應該要互通(即係好似PS4,PS3,PSV部份game咁)
仲有任記而家既人手根本兼顧唔到2個平台
天野 04:07 PM 04-01-16
作者: D.K.:
唔洗要去到PS/PS2 遊戲濫發嘅地步
GAMECUBE 年代真係唔錯.
Gamecube年代既game真係好正唔洗要去到PS/PS2 遊戲濫發嘅地步
GAMECUBE 年代真係唔錯.
好似任記每個月都有1-2隻自家作
依家wiiu既產量大不如前
只係出3ds game多
不過質素都仍保得住
chibiyuchan 04:35 PM 04-01-16
以GAMER角度黎講WII U梗好架
GAME噤玩(SPLATOON同XBX都玩左幾百個鐘)
可以單機多人玩(次次朋友上黎都開MARIO U或MK8或SMASH BRO黎娛賓)
連線唔使錢, 仲成日出免費更新(指SPLATOON)
但以廠既角度黎睇, 咁咪搵唔到錢囉
GAME噤玩(SPLATOON同XBX都玩左幾百個鐘)
可以單機多人玩(次次朋友上黎都開MARIO U或MK8或SMASH BRO黎娛賓)
連線唔使錢, 仲成日出免費更新(指SPLATOON)
但以廠既角度黎睇, 咁咪搵唔到錢囉
lineage19 07:21 AM 04-03-16
作者: D.K.:
唔可以重量又重質咩? 強人所難的話咁退而款款良作可以了吧?
典解變左食量細嘅先係主導, 先係潮流?
反而追求多D GAME玩係錯?
GOOD THEORY. 既然係咁WiiU 咪嬴盡全世界囉? 咁老任就唔洗出NX啦
老實講句, 老任而家係話緊大家知佢要賺多好多好多$, 你地咁輕咁小眾唔夠佢zip牙罅囉
重量又重質D錢邊度黎?唔可以重量又重質咩? 強人所難的話咁退而款款良作可以了吧?
典解變左食量細嘅先係主導, 先係潮流?
反而追求多D GAME玩係錯?
GOOD THEORY. 既然係咁WiiU 咪嬴盡全世界囉? 咁老任就唔洗出NX啦
老實講句, 老任而家係話緊大家知佢要賺多好多好多$, 你地咁輕咁小眾唔夠佢zip牙罅囉
特別係呢家高清化年代, 呢家的新世代玩家你畫面差小小無論你隻GAME幾好玩都比人叫垃圾GAME (當然反過黎你畫面靚到挑花咁, 但GAME PLAY差到嘔電都比人撐到神作的情況都有)
呢家D GAME唔似以前PS2以前的時代, 高清化後每隻GAME的開發費都億億聲咁講,
但係一來: GAME的價錢唔可以大增
二來: 你顧得技術黎又要顧內容?
三來: 遊戲人口減少緊
所以先導致3DS的GAME比VITA豐富, 所以先導致手機GAME大賺
個人覺得SFC->PS的時代先係最好, GAME有創意, 種類多, 神作隨處可見